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1913 National Cash Annals model 441 before and after!

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Post Posted: Jan Thu 04, 2018 12:12 am

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Scattered among the radio restorations is this brass cash annals from 1913, there is a paper label nether the cash drawer that indicates it was made for Ginsberg and Company in New York Metropolis and delivered May of 1913. A lot of gears, counters and keys pretty amazing slice of Americana! It has been fun and challenging. A few more screws to polish and keys to clean this projection will come to an end!

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Oops meant to put this post in the Radio Clubhouse!


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These cash registers are works of fine art....its a shame craftmanship similar this does non exist anymore in todays market....amazing piece to await at.

Very nice job on it Larry.

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Excellent. I'd love for you to post an sound recording of it operating.

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My wife has a few Nationals. Y'all could go them originally with bronze, brass, or nickel plated finishes. WWI unfortunately brought an end to the decorative cash register era.

That 441 cleaned up well!


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Wow! Beautiful restoration chore Larry. I've seen a lot of old greenbacks
registers but never one this complex or fancy. Years ago picked upward
a similar vintage National. It was unique in that information technology was fabricated for the
British market with 'pence' and 'pound' labelling. Its also
nickle plated contumely. Fairly unique. Being an anglophile and collector of vintage
Britmobiles, had to have it.

Really relish seeing what others here collect as well radios.
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Wow! Absolutely gorgeous! :o

How did you get that brass so clean?


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Very nice! I had a few of these (one 300 class, i 400, one 500), and they were quite something to look at in one case restored. Unfortunately as with radios, the housing crash cut the legs out from nether the market. Even and then, it was very enjoyable to restore them, all except the concluding one I picked upwardly: I got a 543 (1919 factory remanufacture) for virtually nothing and I plant out the reason when I took it home - information technology had a nifty deal of internal damage. All the totalizers were frozen, in that location was fume damage on the number reels which couldn't exist cleaned, and to acme it all off it had a cracked frame which played hell with the operation. I salvaged all the parts I could expecting to get another anytime, but I never did.

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I have a glass bead blaster I removed all of the panels and blasted them. The next step was sanding the high shine brass with 1500 grit paper, then to my buffing cycle with jeweler'due south rouge and finally I sprayed lacquer specifically made for brass. Someone asked nigh the audio, pushing the keys is one sound, cranking the motorcar you hear the gears and at the cease rings a bell and releases the drawer which is some other unique sound.


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LarryAD wrote:

I take a glass bead blaster I removed all of the panels and blasted them. The next stride was sanding the high smooth contumely with 1500 grit paper, then to my buffing bike with jeweler's rouge and finally I sprayed lacquer specifically fabricated for brass. Someone asked nearly the audio, pushing the keys is one audio, cranking the machine you lot hear the gears and at the cease rings a bell and releases the drawer which is some other unique sound.

Ahhh...Thank you.
Sooo...apparently information technology is Not Brass Plated...Correct?

"Jewelers Rouge"?


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RadioNut39 wrote:

Sooo...obviously it is Not Contumely Plated...Right?

"Jewelers Rouge"?

The exterior plates of almost Nationals of this era were cast bronze, though I believe there were some runs made in cast contumely as well.


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Beautiful job Larry. I never heard of glass bead blasting brass/bronze to make clean it. Interesting.

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The neat thing about Nationals from this era is that well-nigh of them saw very long service lives. Some were in service all the way up until stores started getting barcode scanners. It'due south not uncommon for one of these to have seen 60-seventy years of ringing up sales.


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How-do-you-do Larry,

Some 20 years back my sis and I institute ane in the ditch forth the road in front of my house. I have no thought who threw it in that location. It is some newer than yours, late 40s early on 50s I'chiliad guessing, but nonetheless very ornate.
It'southward not restored but information technology's cleaned up and she now uses it for her silverish ware in her kitchen.
I just sent her your picture, thanks.

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