Do You Have To Register The Dji Spark
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Usa Offline | 1 # Here'due south what's confusing. The Spark has a 300g "takeoff weight" but without its 95g battery, weighs about 205g, well nether the 0.55lb/250g minimum requirement for FAA registration. (See, for example, the FAA.gov document "geting_started/model_aircraft/media/UAS_Weights_Registration.pdf"). So it appears that, based on the most administrative source of information available, you don't demand to register a Spark. However, the Web is full of claims that the Spark is subject to registration. I'chiliad guessing that the defoliation is because the statute under which the FAA enacted its registrations did non specify whether battery weight should exist included. However, the FAA document states that the weight it considers does not include "the weight of a camera, sensor, bombardment or other device that may be added to the aircraft equally an pick, thereby increasing the aircraft's weight." That seems pretty clear. Anybody take boosted insight into this? Favorite 2 Like two |
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PS013 Offline
Flying distance : 3579409 ft United States Offline | ii # I don't call back y'all tin can telephone call the battery an option, as it can not takeoff without information technology .... |
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PS013 Offline
Flight distance : 3579409 ft United States Offline | three # Oh, and if I remember properly, there was a label on the box of my spark stating it need to be registered ... |
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Flight distance : 648399 ft Romania Offline | iv # "take off weight" includes the battery equally well. |
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hallmark007 Online
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Ireland Online | 5 # For the sake of $5 I don't see whatsoever trouble here, think the fact that you lot have a registered drone will help y'all out when flying outside. |
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The states Offline | vii # hallmark007 Posted at 2018-1-27 16:02 Hey! I was wondering which registration I have to do on the FAA site. Since I am using the drone for hobby and recreational usage only, I was thinking that department 336 (flying under special dominion for model aircraft) is the manner to go. Am I correct with that assumption? |
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Ireland Online | 8 # peselito Posted at 2018-ane-27 sixteen:55 Yep that's all you need to practise. |
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United Kingdom Offline | nine # I've checked their website and information technology doesn't legally stipulate 'payload weight' or 'weight upon take off' - just that the drone needs to be over 250g to register... Mutual sense dictates that the battery will evidently need to be included as part of the drone in lodge to gain lift into airspace and I would therefore annals the Spark as over 250g with the bombardment fitted but legally that could be debatable as it's non stated in the FAA'southward requirements for registration. An oversight on their function. |
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Flight distance : 22123 ft U.s. Offline | 11 # Since Spark weighs .66lbs, and FAA mandates registration of .55lbs or college, I registered mine. It'due south only $v for three years. Meliorate to be prophylactic and in compliance. |
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Grmachine Offline
The states Offline | 12 # Spark requires registration. |
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cundare Offline
United States Offline | 13 # Grmachine Posted at 2018-1-28 17:36 Thank you for all the quick responses, only please read my question a footling more closely. The FAA document I cited gives specific examples of which drones require registration, stating repeatedly that it does not consider battery weight when making these determinations. These slightly ambiguous statements are the only ones I can find online by the FAA on this event , but they'e repeated and then often in the document that the FAA obviously considers this an of import issue. My question is most reconciling this document with the commonly held online conventionalities that the Spark -- well under .55lb/250g w/o bombardment -- falls within the telescopic of the regs in question. In other words, this FAA document -- from the nigh administrative source -- strongly implies that the Spark may non require registration. I submitted this question to the FAA itself last week, but have non received a response. I asked the question here b/c I thought that somebody else in the community might take already made what I'd have expected to exist an obvious query. If not, I'll post the FAA'south response hither, if one arrives. |
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Flight altitude : 5835331 ft Thailand Offline | 14 # >does non include "the weight of a camera, sensor, battery or other device that may be added to the aircraft as an option,< The 'option' camera would be the non needed Get-Pro on a <250g DIY racequad plus a 2d bombardment to gain some existent air-time. |
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Flight distance : 22129 ft United Kingdom Offline | 16 # If a manufacturer'south batt of l yard were available, so no reg would be required. You could still have adept pictures with v min flight fourth dimension. |
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United States Offline | 17 # In the Usa information technology cost $5 every three years. With the flip-flop of having to register hobby quads so not having to and then having to you might besides annals it. If you are not doing illegal things with your arts and crafts either there is almost no reason you will ever accept to show to someone that it is registered. Just reason to be worried about being able to track your arts and crafts is if its being used for illegal things. |
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Bright Spark Offline
Flight distance : 22129 ft United kingdom Offline | 18 # I am happy to annals mine. |
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cundare Offline
U.s.a. Offline | nineteen # FWIW, I received an answer today from DJI back up stating that FAA registration is not required for the Spark. |
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Flight distance : 311089 ft United States Offline | 20 # Huh... I'd judge the dominion applies to a shipping with a battery in information technology to be used the fly in a higher place footing. And regardless, registration online is $5. and takes less than 5 minutes. But read the rules Small Unmanned Shipping during sign-up. Go to it.... |
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Flying distance : 22129 ft United Kingdom Offline | 21 # Although I'm in Uk, sounds skillful not to register.Whether CAA volition follow is open. |
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FatherXmas Offline
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U.s. Offline | 22 # I remember reading somewhere that the weight includes everything required to take off which would include the battery. Since there seems to be a lot of conflicting data about the need to register or not, just my opinion, I recall I'd get ahead and register. For $5, why risk it? From the FAA website: |
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United States Offline | 23 # This is from DJI.com
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Flight distance : 168658 ft The states Offline | 25 # cundare Posted at 2018-i-30 12:59 With all due respect, DJI is not the FAA. Information technology'south only $5, practiced for 3 years and covers multiple drones. Just register it and fly with ane less worry. |
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cundare Offline
United States Offline | 26 # Aeromirage Posted at 2018-1-30 17:36 OK, I'm done with this thread. Virtually all the responses were only guesses, and DJI is apparently the most administrative source bachelor, since the FAA has not responded to my inquiries and has posted only ambiguous information. And no, the $5 is Non the consequence, for chrissakes, but this is something, as the lawyers say, upon which reasonable mindsd may differ. Anybody who tin't effigy out why the NY Times reports that the overwhelming majority of drone users practise not register their units is welcome to get pay the $5 for a device that does not crave registration. But thank you for all the responses anyway. Unless I hear differently from someone with unambiguous chief-source informatio, the issue is closed: although registration is required for DJI'south older models, the Spark falls below the FAA's weight limit, based on the way that the FAA interprets the statutory requirements. |
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Usa Offline | 28 # cundare Posted at 2018-ane-31 12:10 ...but I will forward Aeromirage's link to my DJI customer-service rep to reconcile the information she personally provided me (about no Spark registration requirement) with the conflicting statement at the bottom of Aeromirage's DJI link. Peradventure she was wrong? Maybe the page needs updating? If I get any new data, I'll mail service it here. Thanks, Cap! |
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Flight altitude : 168658 ft United States Offline | 29 # Per the document you linked in the original post... "The listed weights practise not include the weight of a camera, sensor, battery or other devices that may be added to the shipping equally an pick, thereby increasing the shipping's weight." Terminal I noticed the bombardment on the Spark is not an choice. It is a requirement for flight, not an option. Seems pretty straightforward that the Spark meets the threshold weight to crave registration. |
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Bright Spark Offline
Flying altitude : 22129 ft United Kingdom Offline | 31 # So if designed with ii batts,if but 1 of which would be required for flying, nosotros're there! |
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cundare Offline
United States Offline | 32 # Coppertop Posted at 2018-1-31 19:56 I just heard back from DJI customer support today who confirmed that, despite the aforementined DJI link (which manifestly only has not been updated to include the Spark), the DJI Spark does not accept to be registered with the FAA unless used for commercial purposes. I'm yet waiting for the FAA to reply to my asking for information. And all sources tell me that hobbyist drone registration is pretty much never enforced, although I would certainly want to exist in compliance regardless. At this point, there seems to be little adventure, based on my due diligence, of a "costly mistake." |
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Flight distance : 168658 ft United States Offline | 33 # cundare Posted at 2018-2-one 12:48 Sorry. The FAA isn't going to give you a pass considering DJI said you didn't have to register the Spark or because your "sources" say that hobby drone registration is pretty much never enforced. It's a $5 expensive that may never come up into play but if it does, tin save you a world of headaches. Glad information technology's you risking things and non me. |
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cundare Offline
United states of america Offline | 34 # Coppertop Posted at 2018-ii-i 15:29 Let it go, Coppertop. The issue appears to be settled. If that doesn't fit your personal agenda, you can either: i) make the effort to notice and present credible rebuttal testify from a primary source (and if you can add together something new and constructive to the conversation, sure, I'd appreciate that) or 2) STFU and move on. Sitting in that location and just sniping at me considering, when I did the work to educate myself about the issue, I came to an unavoidable conclusion that yous don't want to be true isn't a grown-up option. That's my final word on the field of study until / if / when I hear back directly from the FAA. My fourth dimension'southward too valuable to wast on trolls. |
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Flight distance : 168658 ft Us Offline | 35 # cundare Posted at 2018-ii-2 11:48 Here'due south hoping it all works out for the all-time and you never face up a hefty fine for ignoring the obvious. |
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Flight altitude : 184 ft Offline | 36 # cundare Posted at 2018-1-31 12:x There is no ambiguity in the FAA'southward guidelines on this matter. None. It states, quite conspicuously: "Unmanned shipping weighing less than 55 pounds and more 0.55 pounds (250 grams) on takeoff, including everything that is on board or otherwise attached to the aircraft and operated outdoors in the national airspace system must annals." The uas_weights_registration.pdf document y'all referenced has absolutely no bearing on this topic at all. Information technology is but providing examples of drones which, under the supposition manufacturer weights are accurate, would not need to be registered. It even makes a bespeak of specifying that any optional equipment added to the aircraft, such as an addition camera or actress capacity battery, are not included in these weights and the document clearly implies that the improver of such equipment may button it over the 250g limit. You can practise whatever yous'd similar of class, simply ignorance of the law doesn't absolve you from culpability. Maybe you lot should have that $5 and put it towards a reading comprehension course at the local community college. |
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Flight distance : 184 ft Offline | 38 # Since yous, literally, demand information technology spelled out for you, here you go: https://federaldroneregistration ... onestoberegistered/ |
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Flight altitude : 85682 ft Offline | 40 # k9education Posted at 2018-five-13 20:37 LOL. Skilful one. In addition FWIW, the pilot is registered, not the drone for hobby flying. The pilots FAA number needs to be on the drone/aircraft. |
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United States Offline | 41 # FatherXmas Posted at 2018-1-30 17:24 Has anyone every been prosecuted to civil and criminal penalties for not registering their drone? |
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Flying distance : 73018 ft Offline | 42 # "Bohemian"1776 Posted at 2018-1-28 17:30 Its $25 for 3 years, not $5. |
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The states Offline | 44 # Madwand Posted at 2018-5-xiv 21:01 That is non correct, You must exist looking at a 3rd party site, the actual FAA site is $5 for 3 years. https://faadronezone.faa.gov/#/ |
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United States Offline | 46 # Madwand Posted at 2018-v-14 21:01 i just called FAA a few min agone. DJI spark needs to exist registered. I just registered, $5 for 3 yrs and got my registration number |
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Flight distance : 555262 ft United kingdom Offline | 47 # Exercise you have a reason why you don't want to register? You seem to be going well out of your way to say that other people are not reading these post right but the info is right there. I see optional cameras and bombardment's (some people strap and wire in actress bombardment's) every bit the option chemical element here.. The fact is your Spark is over the weight with everything it needs to fly.. that'due south the weight that is going to hit someone on the head or crash into someone's holding. Pay your $five and have peace of mind |
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Flying altitude : 73018 ft Offline | 48 # FatherXmas Posted at 2018-v-15 07:24 I guess i got suckered... |
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Flying distance : 39314 ft Us Offline | 49 # Despite all the claims and counter claims over whether or not you lot demand to annals a Spark, bear this in listen: if you register with the FAA for recreation purposes only, you DO NOT annals the actual drone. Y'all register yourself. You are issued a number that y'all put on all your drones. The FAA doesn't continue track of how many, or which drones you take. |
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Canada Offline | 50 # Yeah to lighter battery!!! |
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